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DRG Servers Update

Filed under: DRG Servers (6) — Mook at 3:41 pm on Monday, May 22, 2006

(Prior to the post, here is a shameless plug for a real server host!)

As ridiculously incompetent as “DRG Servers” is, I probably would have succumbed to my chronic lethargy and never got around to filing a complaint with the BBBOnline - except that I’m so angry and frustrated (and concerned) about my father right now that I felt the need to channel some aggression. So for those following along at home, below is the Better Business Bureau complaint filed against them, seeking the refund of our $25.00:

Company Information
drgservers.com
[contact info snipped]

Complaint Information
Complaint Type: General Complaint
Date Received: 5/22/2006
Primary Complaint Classification: Service Issues
Secondary Complaint Classification: Refund Practices

Complaint:
On May 9, 2006 I ordered a game server from ‘www.us.drgservers.com’ - this included payment of $25.00 (through ‘PayPal’), and was supposed to include access to a game server, a voice comm server, an FTP site, and a web control panel for all of the above.

Though I was told within hours of placing my order that the voice server would be up and running ‘right off the bat’, that never materialized.

On May 11, 2006 I received what was supposed to be all necessary information regarding the above items - however, when I attempted to actually use that information, I discovered that not a single part of our package was functioning correctly - there was no game server, no accessible voice comm server, and no viable login for either the FTP site or the web control panel.

At this point began a long email exchange with an otherwise unnamed support contact, ‘drgserve@drgservers.com’. At no time were my issues resolved, despite numerous requests; customer service was zero. The emails I received from “customer support” were sloppily written and showed a profound lack of understanding of what our many problems even were, never mind actually rectifying them.

Simply put, the worst customer service I have ever encountered in over a decade of dealing with online businesses.

Desired Settlement: Refund

Desired Settlement Explanation :
The details are simple - I paid $25.00 for services that were never rendered in any way, shape or form. At no time did I ever have access to the servers and services I had paid for, and my requests for a refund have so far (1 week) been entirely ignored.

Customer Service Rep: Mr.drgserve@ drgservers.com,
Product or Service: Game server rental
Account Number: xxxxxx
Salesperson: .drgserve@drgservers.com
Payment Made: Yes
Purchase Price: 25
Disputed Amount: 25
Payment Method: Credit
Purchase Date: 5/9/2006
Problem Date: 5/11/2006
Complaint Dates: 5/11/2006,5/12/2006,5/15/2006

Again, as a warning to all gamers in the world, I strongly advise you - do NOT rent a server from “DRG Servers”. Their customer service is non-existent, their email exchanges look to be the work of middle-schoolers, and they will NOT honor the “money back guarantee” displayed so prominently on their home page.

Forum Discussion

76 Responses to “DRG Servers Update”

  1. Comment By: PAN1C

    I hope this story has a happy ending for you mook.

  2. Comment By: Death Bg

    just to let you ya,all know that Drgservers.com was fantastic for me they did everything mabye Mook you should have emailed the correct email witch is support@drgservers.com = Supportor sales@drgservers.com = Sales

    There servers are fantastic and are the coolest company i have seen for game server hosting

    Before you rabbit on i suggest that you should look at a company alittle more and i belive the company is Registered with the BBB corperation, and let alone that Lee and Michael and drgservers.com are registered with the United Corperation for Company Licences so if there was a major problem with there services then i think it would be dealt with.
    Just Think before you say thats all i am saying dont mean to be Rude

    Thanks

    i will inform lee and michael about this post and see what they do

    Thanks

  3. Comment By: Death Bg

    oh and i Researched into your past my friend seems to me That drgservers.com Gave you free time, becasue you where a customer of Heretic hosting, oh Well so that dont seem right man i think that what you are doing on here is Completly wrong..

    I got all my information from sources todo with Yahoo and Msn Search

    Thanks

  4. Comment By: Mook

    “DeathBG” - you are clearly a front for DRG Servers (don’t bother denying, it just insults our intelligence - I mean, what? Were you surfing the net one day and just happened to ’stumble’ upon my site? AND you’re such a rabid fan of DRG that you figured you’d take the time to make two comments in their defense? Sheesh, give us a break.); on top of that, you as equally clearly have no idea what the hell you’re talking about.

    However, as I’m such a good sport, allow me to respond (and in the future, should you feel the need to get schooled again and reply, please post to the Forums, it’s a much more elegant interface for long discussions).

    1) “mabye Mook you should have emailed the correct email witch is support@drgservers.com = Supportor sales@drgservers.com = Sales”

    My first question is, how do you know what email address I sent my emails to? I didn’t mention in my posts. Do you work for DRG Servers perhaps? Regardless, the email address is not the issue - the sophomoric and unprofessional replies I received are.

    2) “i belive the company is Registered with the BBB corperation”

    Registering with the BBB means absolutely nothing - the BBB is a purely voluntary oversight organization, they have no legal authority to do anything except be a neutral third party in consumer-business disputes. If DRG Servers is such a great proponent of the BBB, perhaps they should respond to the complaint the BBB forwarded to them and try to resolve this situation?

    3) “and let alone that Lee and Michael and drgservers.com are registered with the United Corperation for Company Licences so if there was a major problem with there services then i think it would be dealt with.”

    Neither I nor Google have any idea what that organization is. Wouldn’t make a difference anyway - see 2), above.

    4) “Just Think before you say thats all i am saying”

    You should perhaps take your own advice, as nothing you’ve written evidences a single moment of thought. I am an extremely passive person, it’s not like I am prone to great flights of hysteria. I kept my patience with a ridiculously inept company for longer than most, I simply want a refund for money paid for non-existent services.

    5) “i will inform lee and michael about this post and see what they do”

    My guess is, they will do exactly what they have been doing - namely, not a damn thing. Is it really that difficult to refund $25?

    6) “seems to me That drgservers.com Gave you free time, becasue you where a customer of Heretic hosting”

    Then obviously you DID NOT READ MY BLOG POSTING. In fact they were *supposed* to honor the remaining time of all Heretic Hosting customers - and yet they quite happily took our money when I sent it in error, and never mentioned it until I found out on my own what the arrangement had been. On top of that, even AFTER having this pointed out to them, they still kept the money.

    7) “I got all my information from sources todo with Yahoo and Msn Search”

    All of what information? The only thing you mentioned was that we were hosted by Heretic Hosting before DRG Servers - which is clearly stated in the third paragraph of the blog post you yourself are commenting on. Way to use those internet research skills.

    8) “i think that what you are doing on here is Completly wrong”

    You are certainly entitled to your opinion. Know what I think is wrong? I think it’s wrong for a company to treat its customers so shabbily, I think it’s wrong for a company to refuse to refund money which they shouldn’t have received in the first place, I think it’s wrong for a company to send their little bitches to troll on websites where they aren’t very popular.

    Bottom line is, DRG Servers is poison, I challenge anyone with an IQ over 70 and two functioning eyes to look over our email exchanges and not agree that DRG Servers is incompetent and dishonest. A fact which I and everyone else in our clan will continue to trumpet loudly to anyone who will listen. I know for a fact we’ve saved at least two other clans from making the mistake of signing up with DRG - hopefully there will be many more to come.

  5. Comment By: SANDROCK

    I have to say I totally agree with Mook, I’ve had nothing but problems with this “company” and also will not let any of my friends make the same mistake. You sir should try reading everything Mook and myself have posted in the forums before opening your mouth. In my opinion that makes you look like you dont have a clue about what your talking about. Good day

  6. Comment By: Kyle

    Someone from Drgservers hacked my site and posted banners advertising their service. I’ve taken them down, but if anyone wants to see a screenshot, send me an e-mail through the site messaging system.

  7. Comment By: Mook

    Forgive me for not scrambling to visit a website that is confirmed as having been hacked, lol - but I would love to see any proof/pix/whathaveyou of the incident if you ever check back here :)

  8. Comment By: Plague

    I wish I had found this website before I wasted my $$$ on this crappy server. Server never worked right. constantly stopped for no reason, even when no players were connected. FTP never worked. Support requests ignored.

  9. Comment By: croxeye

    wow DRG you suck…….. honestly now that i have seen this and heard about it from numerous other people i will NEVER get servers from these guys. If you want some great servers either get them from aim2game.com or nuclearfallout.net our public is on aim2game server and our private is a nuclearfallout server both are very good and i suggest you use them…… btw no im not reperisenting any companies.

  10. Comment By: BOB67CAM

    ok let me start by saying i debated on posting for quite some time as i didnt want to sound like i was in drgs defense but ill throw out some facts that i know of personally
    #1 death[heretic] shut his doors on his own customers…
    #2 many of u know he is always in need to borrow money
    #3 death had 3 costumers 2 of them only 1 or 2 months into a paid year contract and the 3rd was like a 3 month paid deal 3 days prior to him shutting the doors
    #4 lee at drg paid death $450 for his client list..not heretic hosting
    #5 death added some files in his clients server files(that he wanted back)to crash there servers..(leaving the guys out he didnt care about)
    #6 every client he runs thru him to clanservers he makes 5% to do nuttin but sit at his pc and make u pay double the price you were paying
    #7 death just busted for hacking in sof2
    (not my idea of a straight shooter)
    proof on my site at http://imempire.com
    this is more my opinion but death himself is just a coder and hacker …and out of curiosity as far as the sites getting hacked ..were any of them hosted by death?..where he could frame drg? if not that just peels off a lil bit of the onion
    ive known lee from drg for approx a year and ive known death about the same
    niether of which seem like bad guys when there getting money from us but if an issue comes up over cash thats when u will see who they are
    in gaming i know peeps are not keen on patience by any means but on the “good guy scale” i think lee wins by a little bit but again thats just me
    along any lines of gameing hosting its really hard to find a good and of course cheap host so sometimes u need to weigh the differences and personally if it wasnt about the price i would toss them both out the window but since it does have to do alot on prices then we have gone with lee untill we find some other nutball hiding behind a pc to rent a good cheap server from
    btw mook that does suck about yer 25 bux but atleast u werent paid up for a year like the 2 others that were raped in the ass ;)id much rather lose the 25 bux then the 3 hundred some odd dollars the other 2 walked away from
    in total that i see death made around $1200 working everyone over….
    maybe death isnt a dumbass..maybe hes the smart 1….hmmm

  11. Comment By: BOB67CAM

    o yea by the way mook…i know me and u didnt hit it off very well hoever i gotta say for yer site and blog…awesome job at letting peeps get info out and as far as i can tell not censoring or removing posts ;)

  12. Comment By: Mook

    Hiya Bob!

    Thanks for taking the time to post again. As I’ve said before (comment #313, http://www.themook.net/blog/2006/05/17/drg-servers-avoid-at-all-costs/#comment-313),
    I have no problem with you whatsoever - you were, in fact, the only person with a brain and desire to help I found in all my dealings from that time.

    I try very hard to NOT delete forum posts or blog comments if I can help it. If something is an obvious commercial post (”Viagra now!”), or just a pointless string of insults, I boot it, but otherwise it’s pretty much fair game. Content stays, whether it agrees with my opinions or not - it’s just the stupid stuff I get rid of :)

    Anyway, glad to see you’re still lurking around, even in the absence of any new blog for a while.

  13. Comment By: BOB67CAM

    lol well i had a convo with lee last night n did a search and found this 1..lol

  14. Comment By: BOB67CAM

    ***update***
    ok i got to have a convo this morning with death ….i hate waking up to this kinda crap but o well…if i get my site hacked then i get my site hacked….so im holding faith in mook that he stands true to not deleteing posts and stuff..altho it is really long

    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    yooo bob
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    tell ur fkin newbs to back off their bs
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    i take all their shit out next
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    tell them check out some ss i have
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    lol
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    u guys just made me 10 more clients
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    thinks for advertising me
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    hehhehe
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    its fkin awsome
    ][~]V[ BOB67CAM says:
    no prob man..lol
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    lol nuke sentinel.. what a waste of time puttin that gay shit on there
    ][~]V[ BOB67CAM says:
    does it bother u?
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    naw it won’t be there long
    ][~]V[ BOB67CAM says:

    ][~]V[ BOB67CAM says:
    why would u wanna screw my site up if i just got u 10 more clients?
    ][~]V[ BOB67CAM says:
    ooooo u were just talking shit huh?
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    u didn’t u’re site page rank blows it’s the pb site where my site is linked.
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    you guys are assholes
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    can’t even link to my site
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    atleast pb does
    ][~]V[ BOB67CAM says:
    well its funny cuz when we were with u i told ya a ton of times to hook me up with a supporter pic n u never did
    ][~]V[ BOB67CAM says:
    but since u n jugz got into it then why would i advertise for ya?
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    Well, u’re servers are still shit
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    they crash all the time
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    why would u link someone who is in secure
    ][~]V[ BOB67CAM says:
    o well there what we got
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    insecure
    ][~]V[ BOB67CAM says:
    u doubled yer price basicly so were not gonna double our paytment
    ][~]V[ BOB67CAM says:
    as long as u can get the hack filesw in on them yea they are
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    ?
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    my servers are 1$ per gaming slot
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    always have been
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    2$ usd paypal fees
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    bigger games like bf2
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    2$ usd a slot
    ][~]V[ BOB67CAM says:
    well now u went with clanservers or whoever band there 1.99/slot no?
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    yea
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    i had a gameserver
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    bnut i have my own dedicated servers
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    i was just testing there network
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    and it blows
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    level 3 communicatrions sux
    ][~]V[ BOB67CAM says:
    o ok
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    anyhow, could u atleast link my site
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    saying this is the guys site that is hacking
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:

    ][~]V[ BOB67CAM says:
    lol well ill check with jugz but heres kinda the deal
    ][~]V[ BOB67CAM says:
    if we support a game hacker its like ..peeps gonna say why the fuck?!
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    lol, your not supporting me
    ][~]V[ BOB67CAM says:
    i dunno why u would have ta hack anyways….
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    u’re telling everyone where to go to find the hacker
    ][~]V[ BOB67CAM says:
    yu been playing the game for what 5 years now?
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    dude
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    imagine
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    all those hackers out there
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    will be pagin me
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    death
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    sell me a hack
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    death
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    sell me a hack
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    wooghoooo
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    $$$$$$
    ][~]V[ BOB67CAM says:
    lmao
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    http://www.elitecodes.net
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    thats my site
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    i have 1200 members
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    everyone hacks
    ][~]V[ BOB67CAM says:
    naw dude..not everyone…
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    yea ok
    ][~]V[ BOB67CAM says:
    a lot but not all
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    the newbs gettin raped
    ][~]V[ BOB67CAM says:
    i dont hack
    ][~]V[ BOB67CAM says:
    never will
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    standin in a corner
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    well
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    i camp somtimes
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    it’s kool with esp
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    u always know when to shoot
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    fuckin badass shit
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    lol
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    ruin my reputation
    ][~]V[ BOB67CAM says:
    well shit u aint gotta camp by seeing yer pics..lol
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    u should atleast change that
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    everyone is laughing soo hard
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    there falling out of there chairs
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    people look at that and say
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    so whats new
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    ?
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    pb even laughs at that
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    im hardware banned
    ][~]V[ BOB67CAM says:
    u know who where what team and what weapon…u should almost get there phone number with that hack..lol
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    been hardware banned for over a year
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    and pb can’t stop me
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    none of u can
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    thats why im so popular
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    kinda like a celebrity, Some hate me and some luv me
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:

    ][~]V[ BOB67CAM says:
    well yer popular in that circle of freinds
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    naw
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    i’m popular
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    online
    ][~]V[ BOB67CAM says:
    u were pretty cool n then i dunno wth happened
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    well really im pretty kool just now u know i hack
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    which was no secret to begin with
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    jug will tell ya that
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    i mean other then that
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    im the same ol g
    ][~]V[ BOB67CAM says:
    well beyond the hacking weve never had an issue between u and me..n maybe i stuck my neck out too far with this but….
    ][~]V[ BOB67CAM says:
    im watching for the non-hacking gamers is all
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    lol, you did good
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    im fine with that
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    i swear i have no problem wioth thatr
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    just u don’t have the real story behind it is all
    ][~]V[ BOB67CAM says:
    yea i did give u front-page props tho
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:

    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    Demon for one
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    wasn’t hacking
    ][~]V[ BOB67CAM says:
    well whats the story?
    ][~]V[ BOB67CAM says:
    fill me in
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    i seen u’re screenies
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    there was no hack
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    just that transparent gun shit from sof2 files
    ][~]V[ BOB67CAM says:
    yea
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    i seen the icons through the walls which is standard
    ][~]V[ BOB67CAM says:
    yea
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    so thats wrong
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    and when i went in that nmatch that night
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    REDKILLA
    ][~]V[ BOB67CAM says:
    well the icons u see whould be only yer team
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    which is a pb admin knew i hacked and don’t play wqithout my hacks
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    so we played the game i mean it was a tuff match but we won by 1, me being the ONLY hacker on the team, so they get mad cuz we won and decide to do what they did with the screenshots which was fine with me
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    but when they came in my server talking shit to Demon and he didn’t even know what the fuck they was talking about
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    then that became a problem
    ][~]V[ BOB67CAM says:
    well you still should be good enuff by now to rape newbs w/o hacking tho
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    the point of the matter is Redkilla knew i had my hacks on before i even went in the server
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    and it was just a friendly match not a official scrim or anything
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    i am
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    i can rape niggas easy
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    but i like hacking
    ][~]V[ BOB67CAM says:
    but then they screwed you?
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    i get a fucking hard on hacking
    ][~]V[ BOB67CAM says:
    whoa
    ][~]V[ BOB67CAM says:
    lol
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:

    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    yea
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    well FUCKU clan just didn’t tell the whole story
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    they knew i had hacks if i was trying to hide it i wouldn’t have played in there server
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    and of course i can get into there machine and delete the screenies if i was worried
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    but no i didn’t
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    i left them there
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    becuz i thought ownage was kool
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    well anyhow they did what they had to do and i did what i had to do to them and they agreed to shut the fuck up or there site is gone, but apparently they haven’t eh?
    ][~]V[ BOB67CAM says:
    i dont talk to any fucku guys
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    oh
    Death - Get Your PhP-Nuke Themes @ thethemes.cc says:
    lol
    ][~]V[ BOB67CAM says:
    lol
    ][~]V[ BOB67CAM says:
    i just know the clan name cuz i kinda dig it.,..lol
    ][~]V[ BOB67CAM says:
    seen it on the list a few times
    ][~]V[ BOB67CAM says:
    but pics came from pbbans
    ][~]V[ BOB67CAM says:
    if thats what yer wondering

    so again…heres the true death for yall ;)

  15. Comment By: Mook

    Hiya Bob,

    Interesting reading :) Sorry for the delay in your comment posting - because it was so long it got sent to the moderation queue instead of going up instantly.

  16. Comment By: -=FUCKU=-OWNAGE

    lol i have some stories….. not even going to make death happy by posting them…. he has his coming…..

  17. Comment By: -=FUCKU=-OWNAGE

    well heres some msn logs that might show u what type of guy death is… i also use to rent from him and i got my domain name though him… look and see what he does to people… http://www.fearusclankillers.com this use to be my domain before he threw a fit like a little bitch that he is … oh well enjoy…

    [I changed the handles here to make this easier to read - originally they were “-=FUCKU=-Ownage Death - Yall Bitchs done fucked with the wrong ass nigga.. You know who you are.” (now just “-=FUCKU=-OWNAGE”) and “Death - Yall Bitchs done fucked with the wrong ass nigga.. You know who you are. -=FUCKU=-Ownage” (now just “Death”) — Mook]

    7/16/2006 8:30:23 AM -=FUCKU=-OWNAGE hey u there?
    7/16/2006 9:03:13 AM Death yes im here
    7/16/2006 9:03:13 AM Death ?
    7/16/2006 10:37:38 AM -=FUCKU=-OWNAGE dude wtf
    7/16/2006 10:37:47 AM Death ?
    7/16/2006 10:37:54 AM -=FUCKU=-OWNAGE so now u fucked our shit up?
    7/16/2006 10:38:01 AM Death ShAdY says (10:40 AM): i just asked red and he said ownage told him to turn it into pbbans and then post it on the website
    7/16/2006 10:38:49 AM -=FUCKU=-OWNAGE yea cause u said you was the only hacker on ur team and that if anyone else did u was going to ban them so i did it for u
    7/16/2006 10:39:29 AM Death don’t play that shit ownage, did u know that demon was raven on the other pc at my moms house
    7/16/2006 10:39:50 AM -=FUCKU=-OWNAGE raven todl me she dont hack
    7/16/2006 10:39:55 AM Death it’s just fucked up how u guys are so desperate for business u would even try to go in my server and fuck with my people
    7/16/2006 10:40:13 AM -=FUCKU=-OWNAGE why the fuck u hackin when u scrim my team?
    7/16/2006 10:40:21 AM -=FUCKU=-OWNAGE thats just fucked up
    7/16/2006 10:40:23 AM Death i hgack
    7/16/2006 10:40:26 AM Death all day everyday
    7/16/2006 10:40:28 AM Death whe3n i p[lay
    7/16/2006 10:40:29 AM Death im hackin
    7/16/2006 10:40:31 AM Death scrim
    7/16/2006 10:40:34 AM Death match no matter what
    7/16/2006 10:40:37 AM Death red killa seen me in ther
    7/16/2006 10:40:44 AM Death as u seen i wasn’t hiding
    7/16/2006 10:40:48 AM Death and i wasn’t flying and godmoding
    7/16/2006 10:40:52 AM Death i was only wallhacking
    7/16/2006 10:40:55 AM Death no big deal
    7/16/2006 10:40:55 AM -=FUCKU=-OWNAGE yea but u still don’t hack durnin a srcim
    7/16/2006 10:41:04 AM -=FUCKU=-OWNAGE public do what u want man
    7/16/2006 10:41:04 AM Death yes i do
    7/16/2006 10:41:06 AM Death u might not
    7/16/2006 10:41:07 AM Death i do
    7/16/2006 10:41:23 AM -=FUCKU=-OWNAGE but my guys try hard to win and for u to cheat durning isn’t cool
    7/16/2006 10:41:38 AM -=FUCKU=-OWNAGE ur supose to be my boy
    7/16/2006 10:41:46 AM -=FUCKU=-OWNAGE ur going to cheat then don’t play them
    7/16/2006 10:41:47 AM Death well, they knew i was in ther and yall knew i hacked if u had a problem with me playing u should of said
    7/16/2006 10:41:56 AM -=FUCKU=-OWNAGE i wasn’t there
    7/16/2006 10:42:16 AM Death well you was suppose to be my boy then u send uy’re fag friebnds in my server talkin shit to my people in front of all them people
    7/16/2006 10:42:20 AM -=FUCKU=-OWNAGE i would have never allowed it if i knew there was going to be cheating
    7/16/2006 10:42:26 AM Death in a desperate attempt to get business in fucku server
    7/16/2006 10:42:27 AM Death lol
    7/16/2006 10:42:36 AM -=FUCKU=-OWNAGE wtf?
    7/16/2006 10:42:43 AM -=FUCKU=-OWNAGE i don’t want ur people
    7/16/2006 10:42:44 AM Death but ya know ownage u don’t do shit to me. cuz my serer will always be the same
    7/16/2006 10:42:47 AM -=FUCKU=-OWNAGE i have mine
    7/16/2006 10:42:48 AM Death not a person can change it
    7/16/2006 10:43:02 AM Death call me a hacker call the team a hacker post screenshots whatever
    7/16/2006 10:43:09 AM Death i can make screenshots to remember that
    7/16/2006 10:43:12 AM -=FUCKU=-OWNAGE wtf dude why u being a dick
    7/16/2006 10:43:20 AM Death welkl im pissed
    7/16/2006 10:43:26 AM Death the way u did my tteam
    7/16/2006 10:43:29 AM Death DON’T FUCK WITH HERETIC
    7/16/2006 10:43:43 AM -=FUCKU=-OWNAGE the way i did ur team?
    7/16/2006 10:43:45 AM Death thats why were on top cuuz i don’t let no one i mean NO OINE fuckl with my team
    7/16/2006 10:43:52 AM -=FUCKU=-OWNAGE u cheat my team and im the bad guy?
    7/16/2006 10:44:09 AM Death u tell u’re people to come to my server and talk shit and post soime shit on pb forums
    7/16/2006 10:44:11 AM Death soo go ahead
    7/16/2006 10:44:20 AM Death i’ll shut all the fuckin sites on the web downb
    7/16/2006 10:45:01 AM -=FUCKU=-OWNAGE go for it dude i don’t even care anymore this is supose to be a game and all it is… is a bunch of drama so go ahead i quit
    7/16/2006 10:45:28 AM Death lol i cheat all the time, always have and always will
    7/16/2006 10:45:30 AM -=FUCKU=-OWNAGE im donefuckin gamin theres no sportsmanship anymore fuck it
    7/16/2006 10:45:30 AM Death you started the drama sendin redkilla in there
    7/16/2006 10:45:30 AM Death it’s supposer to be a game correct. so who cares i hack
    7/16/2006 10:45:30 AM Death so what
    7/16/2006 10:46:08 AM -=FUCKU=-OWNAGE anyway i gtg so do what ur going to do
    7/16/2006 10:46:12 AM -=FUCKU=-OWNAGE peace
    7/16/2006 10:46:47 AM Death k
    7/16/2006 10:46:48 AM Death :D
    7/16/2006 10:48:35 AM -=FUCKU=-OWNAGE just remember who was there for u when u needed them
    7/16/2006 10:48:51 AM Death yea ditto
    7/16/2006 10:48:57 AM Death i do remember
    7/16/2006 10:49:09 AM Death and u are just like everyone else back stab a mother fucker
    7/16/2006 10:49:28 AM -=FUCKU=-OWNAGE how did i back stab u?
    7/16/2006 10:49:37 AM -=FUCKU=-OWNAGE am saying “I”
    7/16/2006 10:49:48 AM Death going in my server talkin shit to my people is back stabbin me
    7/16/2006 10:49:53 AM -=FUCKU=-OWNAGE i never did
    7/16/2006 10:49:57 AM Death U as in I sent redkilla in ther
    7/16/2006 10:50:02 AM Death and u sentr redkilla
    7/16/2006 10:50:05 AM -=FUCKU=-OWNAGE no i didn’t
    7/16/2006 10:50:05 AM Death he told me
    7/16/2006 10:50:18 AM -=FUCKU=-OWNAGE red tokld u i sent him there?
    7/16/2006 10:50:21 AM Death so him and shady are lieing?
    7/16/2006 10:50:37 AM -=FUCKU=-OWNAGE i did not send them to ur server
    7/16/2006 10:51:50 AM Death add shady to the convey
    7/16/2006 10:51:54 AM Death he just told me u did
    7/16/2006 10:54:19 AM -=FUCKU=-OWNAGE so now ur going to shut our cortex down?
    7/16/2006 10:54:29 AM Death no
    7/16/2006 10:54:33 AM Death i did that 1st
    7/16/2006 10:54:47 AM -=FUCKU=-OWNAGE and whats next?
    7/16/2006 10:54:57 AM Death well whats next ownage?
    7/16/2006 10:55:22 AM -=FUCKU=-OWNAGE lol u tell me
    7/16/2006 10:55:33 AM Death it’s all on you
    7/16/2006 10:55:33 AM Death you tell me
    7/16/2006 10:55:40 AM Death i just return favors
    7/16/2006 10:55:50 AM -=FUCKU=-OWNAGE well u pretty much fucked me already so…
    7/16/2006 10:55:50 AM Death u stop here
    7/16/2006 10:55:52 AM Death i stop here
    7/16/2006 10:56:04 AM Death no i haven’t fucked u
    7/16/2006 10:56:08 AM Death u’re still online aren’t u?
    7/16/2006 10:56:21 AM -=FUCKU=-OWNAGE me?>
    7/16/2006 10:56:39 AM Death ownage mang. Listen i don’t fuck with no one unless i have a reason to
    7/16/2006 10:57:44 AM -=FUCKU=-OWNAGE dude i havn’t done shit
    7/16/2006 10:57:56 AM Death -=FUCKU=-CoFRedKilla says (10:59 AM): I was told too
    7/16/2006 10:58:09 AM Death he is referring to coming in my serer and posting screenies somewhere
    7/16/2006 10:58:12 AM -=FUCKU=-OWNAGE ur facts r fucked up… yea i told him to send the pbss in but not go to ur server
    7/16/2006 10:58:37 AM -=FUCKU=-OWNAGE why was ur wife gaming under demons name?
    7/16/2006 10:58:58 AM -=FUCKU=-OWNAGE if i knew it was her wouldn’t have been such a big deall
    7/16/2006 10:59:04 AM -=FUCKU=-OWNAGE i thought u lied to me
    7/16/2006 10:59:23 AM -=FUCKU=-OWNAGE cause u always said that u was the only one to hack
    7/16/2006 10:59:35 AM -=FUCKU=-OWNAGE and when i saw that it pissed me off
    7/16/2006 11:00:25 AM Death yea, well she palyed as demon cuz demon was on the list to play and he never showed up that night
    7/16/2006 11:00:44 AM Death and only reason raven had the hack on the other pc is cuz my lil brother had some greengun bullshit
    7/16/2006 11:00:59 AM Death so it worked and i told her fuck it every lil bit helps
    7/16/2006 11:01:10 AM Death thats why she didn’t use heretic raven to
    7/16/2006 11:01:11 AM Death lol
    7/16/2006 11:01:57 AM -=FUCKU=-OWNAGE could have changed the name easy
    7/16/2006 11:02:11 AM Death well
    7/16/2006 11:02:18 AM -=FUCKU=-OWNAGE anyway this is a pissing match
    7/16/2006 11:02:20 AM Death if i actually thought itr wqas gonna be a issue
    7/16/2006 11:02:26 AM Death then i would of said lets go to our server
    7/16/2006 11:02:34 AM -=FUCKU=-OWNAGE never hack when scriming my team
    7/16/2006 11:02:43 AM Death if i was so pressed i would have just went to u’re server and delete the screenies
    7/16/2006 11:02:43 AM Death but i figured naw
    7/16/2006 11:02:48 AM Death ownage is kool he’ll delete and overlook it
    7/16/2006 11:02:49 AM Death ha
    7/16/2006 11:02:52 AM Death was i ever wrong
    7/16/2006 11:03:09 AM -=FUCKU=-OWNAGE we take that shit to the heart
    7/16/2006 11:03:30 AM -=FUCKU=-OWNAGE public i would have
    7/16/2006 11:03:36 AM Death i understand u take u’re hack free team to heart bro
    7/16/2006 11:03:40 AM Death but it wasa fun match
    7/16/2006 11:03:42 AM -=FUCKU=-OWNAGE but scrims and my team trys hard
    7/16/2006 11:03:45 AM Death i barely had a positive ratio
    7/16/2006 11:03:55 AM Death not like i wasa imbottin
    7/16/2006 11:03:58 AM Death aimbottin
    7/16/2006 11:04:03 AM Death anytime i play
    7/16/2006 11:04:11 AM Death and u can call punkbuster fags and ask them
    7/16/2006 11:04:18 AM Death anytime i play i have my wallhacks on
    7/16/2006 11:04:22 AM Death i don’t play without em
    7/16/2006 11:04:51 AM Death you know if i was pressed about you doing anything with the screenies i could of deleted em myself but i didn’t i had faith in ya ,
    7/16/2006 11:05:00 AM -=FUCKU=-OWNAGE well death anyway this is dumb… so whats ur next move man cause im sitting in the water
    7/16/2006 11:05:05 AM Death redkilla knew i hacked and he nbever said a word bout me bein in the server
    7/16/2006 11:05:19 AM Death well my next move is nothing as far as i can see
    7/16/2006 11:05:25 AM Death redkilla made his mends
    7/16/2006 11:05:36 AM -=FUCKU=-OWNAGE so what about my cortex
    7/16/2006 11:06:11 AM Death uh
    7/16/2006 11:06:22 AM Death u need to call theplanet and have them do a o/s reload
    7/16/2006 11:06:28 AM Death ur’e machine is screwed
    7/16/2006 11:06:29 AM Death sorry
    7/16/2006 11:06:48 AM -=FUCKU=-OWNAGE … nah forget it
    7/16/2006 11:06:52 AM -=FUCKU=-OWNAGE peace

  18. Comment By: -=FUCKU=-OWNAGE

    heres something funny also death said….
    -=FUCKU=-Ownage NO HACKS
    -=FUCKU=-Ownage yeah u better not
    -=Death=-Heretic Hosting but my ladies would love to have a match
    -=FUCKU=-Ownage but why no
    -=FUCKU=-Ownage not*
    -=Death=-Heretic Hosting no hacks
    -=FUCKU=-Ownage oo
    -=Death=-Heretic Hosting my guys clean

    hahaha funny cause look here http://imempire.com/bob/demon.png
    http://imempire.com/bob/demon2.png

    also heres the noob death himself
    http://www.imempire.com just scroll down abit to see this pussy… thanks BOB for having the nuts to stand up against this sof2 bully… from day one this guy has done nothing but make the sof2 world shity… making hacks and shuting down sof2 server and site… i don’t know about the rest of u but this shit is getting old…. maybe we spread the word on this loser people will see him for the person he is… fuckin guy ripped me on this move to dgr servers… I was one of the ones that was paid way ahead like 6 months or more… think i got my money back? FUCK NO so i rented my own box … now that i did that and have a great server guess what bumbass death has to run his little boom program to shut down my server… hahaha funny guy he is…thats ok got a guy workin on that as I type so no biggy….. i know im going on about bs but heres the deal people…. tired of heretic hosting and hacks? talk to me I will host u for the same price as death for the same cost… but! i won’t over pack a box with to many servers! will i make money that way? nope but guess what… who cares aslong as it pisses death off… and people don’t be scard of death.. hes a newb! he says he will shut sites down but he can’t ask bob! its funny shit… he can boom a server but who can’t…. pfft death is a #1 newb hack….. so theres a few things about dip shit you need to know and oh yea heres the msn log of him admiting he hacked drg site… enjoy

    7/8/2006 8:57:57 AM -=Death=-Heretic Hosting - ATTENTION - Websites will be down temporarily, For Maintance!!! -=FUCKU=-Ownage hahaha
    7/8/2006 8:58:00 AM -=Death=-Heretic Hosting - ATTENTION - Websites will be down temporarily, For Maintance!!! -=FUCKU=-Ownage drg is gonna be mad
    7/8/2006 8:58:13 AM -=Death=-Heretic Hosting - ATTENTION - Websites will be down temporarily, For Maintance!!! -=FUCKU=-Ownage http://heetspelen.nl
    7/8/2006 8:58:15 AM -=Death=-Heretic Hosting - ATTENTION - Websites will be down temporarily, For Maintance!!! -=FUCKU=-Ownage hahahahah
    7/8/2006 8:58:21 AM -=Death=-Heretic Hosting - ATTENTION - Websites will be down temporarily, For Maintance!!! -=FUCKU=-Ownage fuckin newbs i hack the site aND BLAME THEM
    7/8/2006 8:58:48 AM -=FUCKU=-Ownage -=Death=-Heretic Hosting - ATTENTION - Websites will be down temporarily, For Maintance!!! lol
    7/8/2006 8:59:24 AM -=Death=-Heretic Hosting - ATTENTION - Websites will be down temporarily, For Maintance!!! -=FUCKU=-Ownage oh nice vbulliten forums

  19. Comment By: ][~]V[ BOB67CAM

    thanks ownage for the words…i think ive said enuff about that patsy-ass death
    but yea i comletely agree with what u said ownage and no prob at all for throwing a 3rd rate wannabe hackers name out there..im not just against death..im against every single pansy hacker out there ;)..if ya cant game on yer own…then either give some effort in getting better or get the hell outta the game because yer a flaming LOSER!!!, :)

  20. Comment By: -=FUCKU=-OWNAGE

    amen!

  21. Comment By: got_milk?

    My DRG Servers story:

    I am in a multigaming clan who we used to use MammothGames for our servers, however severe server lag and nonexistant support forced us to choose another provider. We chose DRG Servers. What a mistake. Two weeks later, I finally have my server with NO RCON PASSWORD OR FTP OR CONTROL PANEL INFORMATION! I have no way of administrating this server and have no idea when to get any of this information. But they did give me two weeks free because of the long set up time. Still, at least give me a RCON password! They didn’t even enable votemap so I can switch maps. This is entirely unacceptable. Now all of a sudden the server is down with no explanation whatsoever and no access to an unusable Control Panel. *sighs*.

  22. Comment By: Mook

    Hiya Got_Milk!

    Sorry to hear you had some bad experiences with DRG - as you can see, you’re not alone :(

    After DRG our clan hopped over to ClanServers.com (now GameServers.com)…they are a little bit more expensive, but they have been FANTASTIC so far! Might want to check them out (fyi, the above link will give us affiliate points if you do actually sign up with them in the future).

  23. Comment By: RzrsEdge

    DRG was good for the first month. I even got a phone call form them letting me know of a scheduled downtime but now that they are starting this new cpanel shit, its done nothing but go down hill. No email replies, no phone replies, not even a fuck you. I paid for 2 months in advance and after the 3-5 weeks of downtime, I decided to go to gameservers.com so I kindly asked for a refund and canceled my account. To this day, the account is still active but I have no access to my own game server, no access to the website that I created and no ftp access so go figure. I formally sent in a few complaints to paypal since I used them to pay with and they told me that after 10 days, I will get a refund and they will go after drg personally via some sort of civil suit. I am also going to post a few bad complaints against DRG in the BBB to make sure that everyone that does read them sort of things sees how they treat their customers. I just hope everyone learns from this bullshit. Good luck in your gaming and avoid DRG at all costs.

  24. Comment By: Mook

    Hiya Rzrsedge - sorry to hear about your problems with DRG too. I think you’ll love Gameservers though, they’ve been great for us! Feel free to stop in our server anytime for some killin :)

    8.9.9.158:20100

  25. Comment By: Musickid

    LOL!!!

    You’re so adorable!! Discarding the post that totally unravled your entire side. Awwwwww. That’s so cute!!!

    Love,
    mR.Musickid

    PS: Get a new life. Your current one must be pretty bad if you have the time to make an entire SITE with the purpose of BITCHING about things. LOL!!! wowowowow. BE WORSE K THX

  26. Comment By: Mook

    “LOL!!! You’re so adorable!! Discarding the post that totally unravled your entire side. Awwwwww. That’s so cute!!!”

    I have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about. I have never deleted a single comment from this site, including those that don’t agree with me, for ANY reason other than spamming, vandalism, or an inability to hold a civil conversation - perhaps you could enlighten us all as to what this mysterious post was that somehow altered the time-space continuum so DRG never acted unprofessionally?

    “PS: Get a new life. Your current one must be pretty bad if you have the time to make an entire SITE with the purpose of BITCHING about things. LOL!!! wowowowow. BE WORSE K THX ”

    I find it amusing that you cast aspersions on someone who runs their own vanity site as a hobby, as if that somehow takes an enormous amount of time, and yet fail to see the irony that you are posting on that self-same site. I would suggest two things - firstly, worry more about your own life and less about mine … in both of your comments you seem to think that running TheMook.Net is some kind of full time job, when in fact it took me a sum total of 13 minutes to write and post both responses to your own silly bitching. Secondly, if you wish to be taken seriously in any online forum, stop using that idiotic ‘leet speek’, it makes you appear to be a 12-year-old (whether you are or not).

  27. Comment By: The Gook

    “I find it amusing that you cast aspersions on someone who runs their own vanity site as a hobby, as if that somehow takes an enormous amount of time, and yet fail to see the irony that you are posting on that self-same site.”

    Wow Mook, YOUR REALLY COOL. What are you going to do now? Show your little supportive online buddies and tell them that you gave someone hell by bitching on a website. What do you expect out of this? See, probably this DRG shit doesn’t like kids like you trying to act like an intellectual. Hey take your time off of gaming and do something what real men do. Here let me tell you, take your ass off the computer, brush your god damn teeth, and exercise.
    Hold on, your going to need a job. I know a job where they accept people for excessive bitching. Its called college, and I bet you can major in bitching 101. Perfect class for you eh? I bet your little share with intelligence on the internet can prove you will succeed life other than sitting YOUR ASS DOWN ALL DAY AND DO NOTHING BUT READ COMMENTS OVER AND OVER AGAIN. Now its amusing that you insulted someone’s typing. So what? what the hell are you going to do about it? GAMERS like YOU fucking made up that language, so why the hell is the fucking grudge about that. Besides, hes American and you probably are too. He has the right to use any language he wants whenever, wherever.
    “firstly, worry more about your own life and less about mine”
    Ha, hes helping you. BUT WAIT you haven’t notice yet. Someday, when you get a penis you’ll notice that you have been an asshole. Respect other people’s opinion jackass, the real world isn’t as easy as an online discussion. You got that kid?

  28. Comment By: Mook

    Um…yeah.

    There’s really no point in responding to this drivel at length, I think the comment pretty much speaks for itself.

    I figured I would post it though instead of delete (it got sent to the management queue for profanity) since it paints a much clearer picture of the commenter than I ever could.

    The only part that mystifies me (well okay, not really the only part) is how I am the one accused of being disrespectful of the opinions of others, when it is you and the other mouth-breathers who are clearly so … I’ve stated a number of times that I’m sure there are many folks whose opinion of DRG is fine.  Bravo for them, I’m glad they’ve been so lucky.  I was not … can I not have my own opinion?  If not, why the double standard?  If I can, then what is your problem with my expressing it?

    A little more logic and civility please, a little less bile and ignorance.

  29. Comment By: Fireball

    Wow, got to love the fanboys mook - DRG really “pwned” you there… bunch of twats they are… I really have to agree with you though that its a company run by pimply little 13yr olds.
    You know - the ones that cheat on every game they play trying to demean how crap you are at games just because YOU’RE not hacking, anyways I digress.
    I have dealt with many hosting company’s before.. and many I would use again for their speed and ease of use. However not too many offer hosting of a game that me and my friends play called Live For Speed , DRG did and so on saturday past we ordered 2 x 10 slot servers, teamspeak and webspace… It’s now tuesday and still no word that the order is being processed or that the server is ready for use. In fact apart from the original account registration email (before i bought a server!) I have recieved no email from DRG at all. This is the first time in all my experience of hosting companies that this level of non-service has ever occured.
    Now the problem is this and I know DRG are still watching this because i’ll post it in their forums as well. They are as bound to UK and US legal rights as any real-life company, and if they are not careful with this level of service and lack of intelligence, they will find themselves in very hot water VERY soon.
    Let’s not beat around the bush DRG, we’re not talking childish hacking attempts or name calling, we are talking about facts of you fraudulently taking money for services you do not provide.
    This means in the UK going to Trading Standards and CAB and in the US to similar bodies or organisations.
    Rest assured DRG, companies like yourselves will not last long.

  30. Comment By: Mook

    Hiya Fireball -

    Sorry to hear you’re having trouble with DRG too, hopefully they were just really busy this past weekend and you’ll hear from them soon, with a stable server and no problems.

    I know it happens, I’ve seen other clans say that DRG is okay for them - hopefully you’ll be one of them too!

    Good luck, and if you’re ever in the mood for some Soldier of Fortune 2 action, drop in and say hiya :)

    Cheers

    (P.S. I never bothered pursuing any sort of legal remedy to have our $25.00 returned - one always hopes that simply bringing it to the company’s attention will be enough, but in this case it certainly wasn’t, and would definitely cost far more to pursue than the money we deserve refunded.  So DRG gets a pass on this one, other than ill will from the gamer community).

  31. Comment By: Fireball

    I went thru paypal and filed a complaint - refund issued very quickly

  32. Comment By: Mook

    Unfortunately this is well beyond the 60-day PayPal refund window now, and at the time I was so focused on resolving with the company that I never thought to pursue with the mediating agent.

  33. Comment By: Nate

    I to have had to wait a while for things to happen to my account/services to be setup. But i have found when i jump in their team speak i get what i need done within an hr. Their teamspeak is listed on their website.

    But - You get what you pay for guys - SOMEWHAT - the actual servers i have received are fantastic. control panel is nice - but it does take a few days sometimes to get what i needed setup. Be patient - the prices your getting is the cheapest around - and there are only a few people running this business i suspect. But jumping in TS helps 100% of the time.

  34. Comment By: JOHN

    DRG SUCKS, PERIOD. Had them for less than a month. Server was down for half that time.. even when you’re in teamspeak. Lee will sit there and joke around with the other guys for an hour or 2.. then, he’ll say.. “Ohh.. John.. how can I help you? What was it you needed?” After I’ve asked the question about 10 - 20 times in between his conversation with him saying,”Okay, hold on, John.” And none of the staff seem like they can help. I ask a question.. “Ohh, Lee has to handle that.. I don’t have access.” Worse customer service ever. Avoid at all cost.

  35. Comment By: Nelson

    DRG is the worst company ever. I stupidly did the reseller package and had 3 servers on it. After just 3 days they are all deleted. I post a ticket and someone replies immediately and says “I’ll look into it”. This makes me think they must have great customer service. 5 days later and still no reply and I go onto Livechat and tell him the problem. He says he forgot about it and that he will update the tickets that very same day. Its been a week now and still no reply.

  36. Comment By: Mook

    Sorry to hear about your trouble Nelson - seems like DRG just never learns. :(

    (And yes - we’re still “waiting” on our $25 refund)

  37. Comment By: RzrsEdge

    Well, I finally found this page again after a LONG absence only to find that others have tried DRG. Im glad to say that PayPal DID come through for my refund but Im hurt that others have found DRG. I just hope they can get a fast refund from paypal also. DRG hasnt changed one bit. They still steal money from their clients. They still promise a server up in 24-48 hours and they still offer the lowest prices in gaming BUT, its NOT worth the headache that you will receive for your money that you pay. Your best bet is to go to gameservers.com and rent a server. They are a little higher priced BUT, well worth the money. Anyhow, good luck to everyone and I hope you read this BEFORE you decide to rent from DRG.

    RzrsEdge

  38. Comment By: SpellByte

    Well i wish i had seen this post a month ago, We have been hosted with DRG for a few months now, yes there was the more than ocassional downtime, which was put down to HDD failure, once i excepted but then severeal times after that it was getting quite ridiculous, i dont like to say it but lee (when online) was helpful in his own little way, inbetween playing his anonoying tunes on that stupid piano of his, i only wish that we had only lost a game server from it all, we had 2 dedicated servers with DRG and since they have recently liquidated we have not only lost the servers and most likely our $700 that we are owed by them we have lost all of our websites and we are now left with very pissed off customers who in their own right will be making a lot of chargebacks against us, so we have now paid out another fortune to etup hosting with softlayer, it’s taking some time to set everything back up again but the damage is already done now, i only hope that paypal will sway in our favour with the disputes, I am getting a credit check performed on mr benson and will shortly after be making a claim in the small claims court against him, According to Lee when i spoke to him on msn yesterday morning he said that his partner in the US (which i thought was his brother, funny how he said it was a woman) had closed down the suite and has run off with all the money, im mixed minded of what is true with them anymore because if he had really screwed everyone over himself then why would he show up on MSN where he knows he will get harrased. but it didn’t take him long to soon vanish from my buddy list.

    My Advice would of been to stay well clear of DRGServers.com but i dont think anyone has to worry about it anymore as they have hopefully been dissolved into nothingness. if only i had moved to softlayer a week ago when my group has first talked about it.

  39. Comment By: SpellByte

    well just a quick update, DRG are back online but not at their old datacenter, it would appear that Lee or michael are hosting it them selves, a quick dns lookup on drgservers.com locates it to 91.186.1.120 which funnily enough is pointing to the fact that they are trying to start everything from scratch under a new name of INFOMARTHOSTING.COM, just a quick heads up really to inform everyone of the dodgy dealings going on with these 2 shady characters

  40. Comment By: oxide

    why do u people waste ur time/ dedicated a site to destroying DRGservers.. im not saying im protecting drg nor am i saying i take u guys side but cmon isnt a site a bit much for one thing?,,, if people order the servers and dont like it well its their problem no offence or anything its just 25.00 mook, and guys let me just tell u sumthing yes it may be kinda of a bad thing but dont mock them please… its just plain pityful yall would waste ur lifes trying to destroy sumthing good…. they are also trying to make a living you know so please consider the consequenses and stop this madness … :) well i hope yall understand me and im NOT TAKING ANY SIDES JUST Expressing my own opinion on all this.

  41. Comment By: Mook

    Hiya SpellByte -

    Sorry to hear about your recent reaming at the hands of DRG, I hope you can salvage something out of it.

    I hadn’t realized that DRG was closing shop, but you’re right, there’s nothing at their domain now but some folders.

    Although you also mentioned that they might just be ’starting fresh’ somewhere else … woe to us all.

    Thanks for the info!

  42. Comment By: Mook

    Oxide, Oxide, Oxide … I’m telling you right now, this is going to be one hell of a rant, so if you have thin skin, move along now. It’s late, I’m cranky, I’m pissed off at the world, then I happened to read your little stain of a post and, frankly, the stupidity of it completely cramped my brain. Seriously, I could feel a twinge in my actual cerebellum, I
    thought I might be having a stroke.

    I must vent.

    I won’t even pick on your complete lack of ability to spell, capitalize, or use punctuation correctly - promise. The “substance” of your post is more than enough to work with, anything more just feels like kicking the handicapped.

    To me it seems clear you’re either some DRG shill-fanboy, or just a complete idiot. For the purpose of this linguistic beatdown it doesn’t really matter which, the points remain the same.

    My first question to you, my only question really, is - ARE YOU A COMPLETE FUCKING MORON? I love twits like you who wander cluelessly around the internet (and the world, don’t think I haven’t met your kind off-line too) and post pointless drivel about shit you
    obviously haven’t the faintest, foggiest idea about.

    “Waaah, Waaah - why do you people waste your time dedicating a site to destroying DRGservers.” “Waaah, Waaah - isn’t a site a bit much for *one thing*?”

    You’re either illiterate, or couldn’t be bothered to take 15 seconds to research the site before opening your stupid mouth. This site is hardly ‘dedicated to destroying DRGservers’. Honestly, I couldn’t give two tugs of a dead dog’s dick (ah, Spider Jerusalem, I love you) about DRG, or Lee, or whatever happens to either of them.

    This blog existed before I ever had the misfortune of having to deal with the likes of DRG. It will likely still be around long after I’ve forgotten all about Lee, and his whole ridiculous company.

    There are 51 posts on this blog. Exactly 6 of those posts have anything to do with DRG. In addition to the blog there are public forums, discussion boards for anything and everything - our 350+
    registered users have made over 27,000 posts - exactly THREE threads contain mention of DRG.

    Beyond the blog and the forums, the site contains hundreds of pages dedicated to the games Soldier of Fortune, World of Warcraft, GURPS, and Fudge, not a single one of which has anything to do with
    DRG. At all.

    Yes, clearly, this site is dedicated to the destruction of DRG.

    Open your eyes fanboy - look before you post, THINK before you post. Do you not notice a pattern to the comments posted here? I made the initial post, then there were a few comments, and then …
    nothing. The issue dropped, time and again, for weeks, sometimes months, with no one saying a word. Then invariably someone would stop by and make another comment, sharing their own experiences with DRG, which would prompt a few more comments. Etcetera.

    That’s the way the internet works, fool! If I have to explain that to you, seriously, there’s no point in even discussing, we’re not speaking the
    same language.

    Oh wait, I can’t leave you alone just yet, this is one of my favorite parts.

    “No offense or anything, it’s just $25.00 Mook”.

    Spoken like a true asshole. Leaving aside for the moment that, yes, there really *are* things more important than money, the callous fucking attitude of this simply astounds.

    I’m happy you’re lucky enough to have a great job, or you inherited a trust fund, or you’re still sucking off the family teat, or whatever your deal is, but let me assure you - there are many, many, MANY more people for whom $25.00 actually *is* a big deal than there are for whom it is not. Get your head out of your ass … and you call *me* pitiful? Amazing.

    If it’s such a pittance, how about you send us the refund we deserve?

    Bottom line here - if you’re going to post useless bullshit, expect to get called on it. I have no desire to coddle the mentally infirm, if you can’t put forth an intelligent argument and defend it logically instead of just spouting unsupported ignorance, expect to have it pulled to pieces.

  43. Comment By: oxide

    ok , listen here man i lack the ability to spell because im not really from here. i might spell and say things that doesnt make much sense.I HATE (NO DISPISE DRG)… actually i have a server ON THERE.Well its no more… i was just trying to say that some times making others look bad just isnt worth it.. I hope i ddint really get u mad or anything.

    ***If it’s such a pittance, how about you send us the refund we deserve?***
    - I will not send u a refund for it isnt my problem im not here looking for problems.

    so my whole point here Mook, is just saying chill out.. and yes 25 dollars is important, Especially to me wich i dont really have ALOT of what u call money..

    If i could help i would but unfortunatly i cant.

    So ya this what i just wrote might not make much since for my poor english but understand this man, I FUCKING HATE DRGSERVERS THEY CAN SUCK A COCK, ESPECIALLY LEE THAT DICKHEAD. that is all i have to say about this, if U want to continue this Argument Then we shall continue it, or we can just call it off here man, and one more thing i think we started in the wrong foot how about this we start over ei?

    PS: IM FROM BRAZIL , english to me is kinda hard

    PSS: dont be mad man be happy ;)

  44. Comment By: Mook

    Hiya Oxide -

    Okay, I am a bit calmer now than I was last night. I did mention that you caught me at a bad time, it is possible I went just a teeny, tiny bit overboard. :)

    First off - I wasn’t aware that English is your second language, so for picking on your spelling and grammar I apologize. In fact, kudos to you on being able to converse with us at all - Americans generally don’t bother trying to bridge the language barrier, we just assume everyone will come to us.

    As for the substance of your message, it sounds like basically what you’re saying is “Chill out, don’t spend so much energy on negativity.”

    Normally this is a philosophy I embrace - I’m actually one of the most chill, laid-back folks I know. But DRG *really* got under my skin with how ludicrously long they’ve dragged this thing out, all the lies, all the incompetence, it just sickens me.

    Having said that - it isn’t like I spend 24 hours a day just sitting in a room thinking bad things about DRG. I’d say most weeks and months pass by quietly and I never even think of the whole thing, until someone mentions something fresh. Then I get pissed off again, vent a little more, and go back to my life.

    So - thank you for your advice to not let DRG bother me so much, but I think you *greatly* overestimated their impact on me. As I pointed out, the DRG parts of this website are tiny, certainly less than some percent of a percent - it barely registers in the grand scheme of things.

    Clearly they’ve wronged you as well, sorry to hear that - but I’m glad you haven’t let ‘em get to you. Stay happy - just don’t tell me I have to be happy too. :D

  45. Comment By: serge

    WOW DRG servers did me dirty i have hosted around 12 websites with them with around 1 million visitors monthly. About 4 months ago all sites crashed and went offline for 1 week. I have called UK i have emailed many times and no reply.

    Then everything went well so i was like w.e maybe one time thing as i was told.
    Then DNS problems started my server in one week went from PR 4 to PR0.

    Google removed me from postition 1 page 1 i was in shock. I still stayed cause so many sites to move was just 2 much.

    This gets even better around 3 weeks ago everything goes offline again i don’t seep nights looking for Lee or anyone else to fix my sites.
    One week passed i found lee and he put sites back online. Guess what? next day they all crashed, i was removed from google again all 12 websites.

    No i had to buy a new server while i already payed for this one and only had the time to back up one site, other 11 sites are gone with no back up and DRG servers is parked free,
    This cost me thousands of dollars because all the work i did in past 6 months users etc is all gone.

    DRG BURN IN HELL.

  46. Comment By: Mook

    Another satisfied customer. :(

    Truly sorry to hear about your problems Serge, that really is awful.

    I notice I don’t see a lot of DRG defenders scurrying out of the woodwork lately.

  47. Comment By: serge

    I was a friend of lee for 6 years and he did that to me, so im not surprised about regular costumers.

    You need to hear this, i finally by staring at his site for one week, i saw live support go online. I sent a message saying sites are offline, here is her reply ” we will fix this problem ASAP good bye” and she signed me off hahaha can you belive this?
    Just droping a costumer like that? 24/7 support morelike 24 days 1 minute support.

  48. Comment By: Mook

    Ouch.

    I wish you better luck at your next host!

    Actually, my hosting company has been amazing since day one, and their rates are reasonable, I can wholeheartedly recommend them:

    http://www.esosoft.com

    Good luck!

  49. Comment By: RzrsEdge

    Oxide. Who are you trying to kid? DRGServers only charges $25 but look at it on a large scale. If they do that to 10 people, only 10, that is $250USD they are gaining. Now lets think much more realistic, if he has over 200 people on account, at $25 a piece, that is well OVER $5000USD. If we can stop just one person from using his service, then we stop Lee from gaining any more hard earned money from honest people. Also if you call this making a living, then maybe I should try it but then I would lower myself to the same level as Lee and that level is THEFT, FRAUD and possibly EXTORTION. As for him changing business name, good luck with that. The new name will get trashed soon enough by very pissed off customers and then guess what, a NEW HATE site will be created and maybe I will host this one on my PERSONAL box for all to see. Anyhow, if anyone reads this before you buy from DRG or what ever name hes using now, DONT DO IT. Save your money and use Gameservers.com … much more reliable and easier to get in contact with IF a problem ever arises.

  50. Comment By: Whales

    Hey. not if you noticed but DRG went down on the 8th October 2007. There has been a lot of debate as the services paid for have not been refunded. I have both of there last known address and a lot of people are prosecuting them and sueing them.

  51. Comment By: Mook

    Hiya Whales -

    I knew they had gone down and run off with a lot of folks’ money, though I wasn’t aware there was a movement to sue … how are you all keeping in touch with one another? I’d be curious to follow the story as it unfolds. :)

  52. Comment By: VIP3R

    Dont feel bad Mook, after DRGs little disappearing act, hundreds have lost money. We alone had 2 dedicated boxes, a TS reseller, Vent reseller, and a bunch of other crap, and we were makin some good loot. Now its all about the refunds and hope that we still have enuff to grab atleast one dedicated at the end of this. Our lawyer is processing the paper work presently to sue both Lee and Michael and then DRG as a company.They have not claimed bankruptcy, and they stopped paying for services 3 months ago, so its only obvious that they had this planned. We would also like to know from others how this turns out.

  53. Comment By: VIP3R

    Ohh yes before I forget, i do have Lees and Michaels info handy,

    [EDIT by MOOK: please contact Vip3r directly if you need their contact info, he’s at: king_vip3r@hotmail.com ]

    Thats just incase someone needs to get this info to their lawyer !!!

  54. Comment By: VIP3R

    Damn…. disregaurd the Tech after Liverpool,l229qp

  55. Comment By: Mook

    (Hey Vip3r - hope you don’t mind, I don’t really want to be responsible for anything that might come of posting Lee and Michael’s personal info online, so I edited your post a bit. Color me cautious.)

  56. Comment By: Spellbyte

    well we are now hosted with softlayer and have no problems, they truly are a professional hosting company, we had submitted some paypal disputes and waited the full 2 weeks plus a few days before we got a decision from them. they had actually sided with us for all of thedisputes but because the funds where not there to retrieve (shocking i know) they couldn’t refund us.

    they tried re-assuring us by saying if they account had any funds come in then they would send it right to us. but i’m not holding out any hopes what so ever, we have since forgotten about DRG altogether and have moved on with our new hosts and have made more than our mony back so all is good, i hope that everyone has been able to recover from the disaster that was caused to them by Lee and Michael.

  57. Comment By: Mook

    Thanks for checking back in Spellbyte, glad to hear it’s sunny skies ahead from now on!

  58. Comment By: Spellbyte

    anytime Mook, it’s such a shame that so many got screwed over by them, let’s hope this is the last that anyone see’s of the terrible two

  59. Comment By: rabaa

    isnt drgservers DEAD NOW

  60. Comment By: Mook

    “isnt drgservers DEAD NOW” - rabaa

    Um … yes. Yes it is. What’s your point?

  61. Comment By: Whales

    Well sorry it took a while to reply but, yes Mook, people have been trying to sue them especially in the Netherlands where they take their gaming very seriously indeed. I keep in touch with everyone through the means of MSN, and Xfire etc.

    I have also been told of a hosting company that used to use DRG Servers for their servers and for some reason although all of DRG Servers services are down, the hosting company i was told about seems to be running strong. And i know for a fact the company in question was being helped by Lee.

    If you would like more info on the website please just ask.

  62. Comment By: Mook

    Yes please. :) (I can’t help it - I’m morbidly curious).

  63. Comment By: Whales

    Well, you remember the significant low prices like £1 a slot. Well check out directclanhosting.com. Uses same order program uses old panels with the same licences that DRG used, strange hey!!!!

    Although Lee & Micheals name is not featured on the about page, i do know for a fact that directclanhosting.com used Lee for thier servers and they are still up?

  64. Comment By: RzrsEdge

    I dont think they are directly related but one never knows what kind of fake name they will use to gain money. Here is the info on directclanhosting.com

    Registrant:
    DirectClanHosting

    62 Ringinglow Road
    Sheffield, South Yorkshire S11 7PQ
    United Kingdom

    Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
    Domain Name: DIRECTCLANHOSTING.COM
    Created on: 08-Mar-06
    Expires on: 08-Mar-08
    Last Updated on: 14-Jul-07

    Administrative Contact:
    Nailor, Josh jaws.bhd@gmail.com
    DirectClanHosting
    62 Ringinglow Road
    Sheffield, South Yorkshire S11 7PQ
    United Kingdom
    07914577972

    Technical Contact:
    Nailor, Josh jaws.bhd@gmail.com
    DirectClanHosting
    62 Ringinglow Road
    Sheffield, South Yorkshire S11 7PQ
    United Kingdom
    07914577972

    Domain servers in listed order:
    NS5.GEESERVERS.COM
    NS6.GEESERVERS.COM
    TEMP34329234.DOMAINSITE.COM
    TEM123123.DOMAINSITE.COM

    Registry Status: ok

  65. Comment By: Joshua Nailor

    Woh woh, I’m Joshua Nailor the owner of DirectClanHosting.com. I have been for many years now.

    Yes i did know Lee and DRGServers and i did have a few U.S Machines with them. I left a few months before they went down. Lee and the other staff at DRGSevrers have NOTHING to do with DirectClanHosting. We have been up and running and Lee hasn’t joined us or moved anything over.

    So i would like to clear things up here. DirectClanHosting have never been owned by DRGServers or Lee the owner.

    I do know him yes and i have spoken to him a lot. But he has nothing to do with me.

    Thanks,
    Regards Joshua Nailor

  66. Comment By: Mook

    Fair enough, thanks for the clarification Joshua. I really hope you have better ‘luck’ with your company than Lee and Michael did with theirs!

  67. Comment By: Joshua Nailor

    Cheers Mook, I tried to speak to you on msn ealier, Yeah i came across the site with our name in a post.

    Yeah i won’t mess things up thats for sure. Mostly a UK Seller but have a U.S Web server for web hosting :) So if you need any mate.

    Cheers

  68. Comment By: Whales

    fair enuf mate, i was just going on what i knew etc. Do you know what lee is up to now?

  69. Comment By: Chaz a old staff member @ DRG

    LOL ok ok wait Joshua, EVERY THING died at DRG or did it? what happen with that kewl new hip company Lee linked up with at a week before all fell down and someone have a site that was a UK server that Lee was linked Hmmm
    We all forgot about dear Chaz LoL

  70. Comment By: Chaz a old staff member @ DRG

    http://www.leetsaucehosting.com/images/
    look at this the DataCenter that Lee was using LOL who is Corey?

  71. Comment By: V1P3R-=ECK=-Gaming

    Chaz ole buddy ole pal…..whats goin on man, long time no talk…or..errr yea type ne ways, lmao.TS me @ 74.71.247.35:8767 bro. I have done numerous searches on Lee over the internet but havent found anything new and exciting, he dont even come on msn anymore……although hios partner in crime michael thats in cali does, but its weird cuz i added him last week, he added me and his screen name says Sherry, lmao

  72. Comment By: Joshua Nailor

    I haven’t spoken to Lee for months now. I don’t know what hes doing. And he was never involved in DirectClanHosting. The only time he was was when i was a customer of DRG Servers and i had machines in the U.S with him.

    He hasn’t been on msn, Althoguht i have his phone number and i could ring him i also know where he lives in the UK.

  73. Comment By: corey

    In reply to #70
    Those images from the data center were from drg since I was a reseller for a time. when they skipped town i was ripped off the money i just paid them, the money they got from me from glitching modernbill and the money it cost me to refund people.

  74. Comment By: corey

    total I was out about 2500 they hit my paypal w/ repated charges somehow for about $1350, rest was the payment for everyone and refunds for everyone

  75. Comment By: Mook

    Ouch, sorry to hear that Corey - that sucks.

  76. Comment By: Corey

    well its alright. I have all of Micheal(the owners) info home addy cell phone number and everything even where he works. have sent him a few letters but never got a reply

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